Comments on: 3 Players That Need to Make an Impact in 2012 http://ninernoise.com/2012/05/26/3-players-that-need-to-make-an-impact-in-2012/ A San Francisco 49ers Blog Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:45:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Bill Dwinells http://ninernoise.com/2012/05/26/3-players-that-need-to-make-an-impact-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-1253194 Bill Dwinells Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:59:11 +0000 http://ninernoise.com/?p=6623#comment-1253194 Thanks to Mike for backing me up here. Tallguy I don't think you even read my article. I would like to address your points 1 at a time, hopefully you take the time to read this and maybe I can clear things up for you. #1 At no point did I say that Walker would or could over take Vernon for the starting tight end spot. I also didn't say his role would be bigger, in fact I said it would probably stay the same but that he needed to take advantage of the times when he was on the field (most likely in the red zone) because of all the weapons that got added. Also, if you watched every snap of every game as I did in 2011 then you might know what I was talking about in regards to his areas that need to improve. But apparently all you do is look at AP rankings and PFF rankings. #2 I am aware of who Justin Smith is and how good he is, which would be the main reason that I want Mcdonald to be like him or at the very least strive to be like him. It seems like in your opinion we can only have one star on the defensive line. Silly. #3 Yes Bowman needs to step it up. Again with the AP rankings, I could care less what he is ranked by AP and that he was ALL-Pro. Very nice for him but with 143 tackles and not much else, I would like to see him step up and be more of a complete LB like Patrick Willis. In conclusion I think you need to spend a little less time reading AP rankings and do a little research of your own. I could care less how high players are ranked on the AP list or how many All-Pro years they have, you said it yourself, Montana only had 3 and Craig only had one but that doesn't change the fact that they were the best players at their position. Football isn't about All-Pro rankings or PFF grades, it is about Super Bowls. My contention was that if the 49ers want to win #6 then they need some bigger, better performances from some players. Learn how to read sir, don't just look at the 3 names I put up there and wig out like a kid getting his lunch money stolen. Clearly you have a lot to learn about football. Let me know if you need some help and I can teach you a few things, or better yet you might want to read this: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=football+for+dummies&hl=en&prmd=imvnsb&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1600&bih=813&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9031904206581037284&sa=X&ei=DQLJT7K3NIOZ2QXXrpTaCw&ved=0CFwQxBUwAA Have a good day. Bill Thanks to Mike for backing me up here. Tallguy I don’t think you even read my article. I would like to address your points 1 at a time, hopefully you take the time to read this and maybe I can clear things up for you.

#1 At no point did I say that Walker would or could over take Vernon for the starting tight end spot. I also didn’t say his role would be bigger, in fact I said it would probably stay the same but that he needed to take advantage of the times when he was on the field (most likely in the red zone) because of all the weapons that got added. Also, if you watched every snap of every game as I did in 2011 then you might know what I was talking about in regards to his areas that need to improve. But apparently all you do is look at AP rankings and PFF rankings.
#2 I am aware of who Justin Smith is and how good he is, which would be the main reason that I want Mcdonald to be like him or at the very least strive to be like him. It seems like in your opinion we can only have one star on the defensive line. Silly.
#3 Yes Bowman needs to step it up. Again with the AP rankings, I could care less what he is ranked by AP and that he was ALL-Pro. Very nice for him but with 143 tackles and not much else, I would like to see him step up and be more of a complete LB like Patrick Willis.

In conclusion I think you need to spend a little less time reading AP rankings and do a little research of your own. I could care less how high players are ranked on the AP list or how many All-Pro years they have, you said it yourself, Montana only had 3 and Craig only had one but that doesn’t change the fact that they were the best players at their position.

Football isn’t about All-Pro rankings or PFF grades, it is about Super Bowls. My contention was that if the 49ers want to win #6 then they need some bigger, better performances from some players. Learn how to read sir, don’t just look at the 3 names I put up there and wig out like a kid getting his lunch money stolen.

Clearly you have a lot to learn about football. Let me know if you need some help and I can teach you a few things, or better yet you might want to read this: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=football+for+dummies&hl=en&prmd=imvnsb&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1600&bih=813&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9031904206581037284&sa=X&ei=DQLJT7K3NIOZ2QXXrpTaCw&ved=0CFwQxBUwAA

Have a good day.

Bill

]]> By: Mikehart8 http://ninernoise.com/2012/05/26/3-players-that-need-to-make-an-impact-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-1253191 Mikehart8 Thu, 31 May 2012 01:40:14 +0000 http://ninernoise.com/?p=6623#comment-1253191 Player ranking are great, but they aren't the whole story. Watching the game you can see where these players need to improve (it doesn't matter where you rank or how good you already are, you can always improve your game). Bowman and McDonald benefit from being surrounded by great players, which can make their individual performances look better than they actually are.   As for Walker we will have to step his game up if he expects to be a weapon this upcoming season. He showed flashes last season, and this is a contract year for him. I don't see anywhere where is says he will overtake Vernon Davis, but anyone who thinks there is a chance should go see a neurologist.   If I had to choose 3 guys to improve/make an impact it would be Crabtree, Goldson, and Alex Smith.   Player ranking are great, but they aren’t the whole story. Watching the game you can see where these players need to improve (it doesn’t matter where you rank or how good you already are, you can always improve your game). Bowman and McDonald benefit from being surrounded by great players, which can make their individual performances look better than they actually are.
 
As for Walker we will have to step his game up if he expects to be a weapon this upcoming season. He showed flashes last season, and this is a contract year for him. I don’t see anywhere where is says he will overtake Vernon Davis, but anyone who thinks there is a chance should go see a neurologist.
 
If I had to choose 3 guys to improve/make an impact it would be Crabtree, Goldson, and Alex Smith.  

]]> By: Tallguy http://ninernoise.com/2012/05/26/3-players-that-need-to-make-an-impact-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-1253188 Tallguy Tue, 29 May 2012 06:46:33 +0000 http://ninernoise.com/?p=6623#comment-1253188   Bowman has to step it up?!? He was first team All-Pro!  Joe Montana made it three times in his career, Roger Craig made it once. Justin Smith just made it this year for the first time along with Bowman. Bowman made it in his second year! He just had his breakout year, the AP noticed, I guess you missed it.  The only honor higher than first team All-Pro would be MVP or Defensive Player of the Year.  Nondescript role player?!? Pro Football Focus (PFF) which grades players based on every play, ranked him #14 in the NFL based on his performance last year, second on the team and just behind #13 Tom Brady (Willis was #20, but he did miss three games).   Ray McDonald had a stellar year as you noted, but apparently he has to step it up and be like Justin Smith.  Do you have any idea how good Justin Smith is?  Not only was he first team All-Pro at Defensive Tackle, he was selected to the second team All-Pro team at defensive end.  He was All-Pro at two different positions in the same year!  PFF ranked Smith as the #2 player in the NFL last year, trailing only Aaron Rodgers.  Where did McDonald rank on their list? 4th on the team and #45 in the NFL.    Obviously you're not in agreement with PFF or the Associated Press, but perhaps you might reconsider your characterization of McDonald and Bowman as role players when both the AP and PFF consider Bowman to be one of the top 25 players in the game and PFF considers McDonald in the top 50, this in a league with 660 starting players, as well as situational players like Aldon Smith.    Walker is an outstanding second team tight end.  He's not going to beat out Vernon Davis (who has yet to be selected even second team All-Pro guess he's just a role player) to become an every down player though.  He got hurt and it definitely hurt the team in the playoffs.  It wasn't any lack of performance, it was his injury that limited him.  This year his role almost certainly won't be any bigger, considering the team added Moss, Manningham, Jenkins, and James as targets.     Bowman has to step it up?!? He was first team All-Pro!  Joe Montana made it three times in his career, Roger Craig made it once. Justin Smith just made it this year for the first time along with Bowman. Bowman made it in his second year! He just had his breakout year, the AP noticed, I guess you missed it.  The only honor higher than first team All-Pro would be MVP or Defensive Player of the Year.  Nondescript role player?!? Pro Football Focus (PFF) which grades players based on every play, ranked him #14 in the NFL based on his performance last year, second on the team and just behind #13 Tom Brady (Willis was #20, but he did miss three games).
  Ray McDonald had a stellar year as you noted, but apparently he has to step it up and be like Justin Smith.  Do you have any idea how good Justin Smith is?  Not only was he first team All-Pro at Defensive Tackle, he was selected to the second team All-Pro team at defensive end.  He was All-Pro at two different positions in the same year!  PFF ranked Smith as the #2 player in the NFL last year, trailing only Aaron Rodgers.  Where did McDonald rank on their list? 4th on the team and #45 in the NFL. 
  Obviously you’re not in agreement with PFF or the Associated Press, but perhaps you might reconsider your characterization of McDonald and Bowman as role players when both the AP and PFF consider Bowman to be one of the top 25 players in the game and PFF considers McDonald in the top 50, this in a league with 660 starting players, as well as situational players like Aldon Smith. 
  Walker is an outstanding second team tight end.  He’s not going to beat out Vernon Davis (who has yet to be selected even second team All-Pro guess he’s just a role player) to become an every down player though.  He got hurt and it definitely hurt the team in the playoffs.  It wasn’t any lack of performance, it was his injury that limited him.  This year his role almost certainly won’t be any bigger, considering the team added Moss, Manningham, Jenkins, and James as targets.
 

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